Indeed, U.S.A. is not America!
America is the name of a whole continent. United States of America means that the United States belongs to America and NOT that America belongs to the United States. So, next time you want to refer to The United States of America, you can do it as U.S. or the States or whatever you want but not as only America. Gotcha?
How should I use the term America then?
Here we will show you some wrong and correct uses of the term America:
This is how we do it in America.
This is how we do it in the States.
- America is my country and I love it.
- The United States is my country and I love it.
- America lost the Vietnam war.
- U.S.A. lost the Vietnam war.
- Here in America we love Mc Donald's.
- Here in the U.S. we love Mc Donald's.
Please, note that this page in not about demonyms (gentilics) but about the way to call a country.
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“The way America got its name does not in any way give the U.S. the chance to steal its name.”
Haven’t you always been claiming that the US stole the name? Doesn’t that mean that we not only got the chance, but we succeeded? Nothing you write makes any sense.
You just provided examples of me stating the facts about ’America’ and ‘Parias’ on the 1507 map.
Your memory is amazingly terrible. That’s one of the many reasons why your “arguments” are so ridiculously awful. We had this exact same exchange years ago. You were in disbelief when I said that I had always stated that ‘America’ referred to the continent(s) before it referred to the US. This was after we had argued for months about Parias. In that argument I stated many, many times that ‘America’ originally referred to SA. WHICH IS A CONTINENT AND NOT THE USA!!! So even after arguing this point for months, and many other points that perfectly illustrated that I knew that ‘America’ referred to the continent(s) before it referred to the USA, you still believed or pretended that I was claiming that ‘America’ originally referred to the US. What is wrong with you?
Oh, so that was you? So you had that position before you changed to another position. You keep changing your position on the subject and telling that it is our fault that we don't see that you have always thought one way and that old exchange was about you trying to say that originally America was not to name the continent but a part of S.A. Just by having written this about Parias and S.A. you were showing you had a different position then. The way America got its name does not in any way give the U.S. the chance to steal its name. If they wrote the name on a map where S.A. is now, does not change that the entire continent's name is America.
You will always be dumber than dirt. How have I been inconsistent? Please try your best to clearly explain your so-called point.
When one is loosing an argument, the best way to attack is by insulting. Those who claim to be of higher IQ need to have patience with the rest humble minds.
How am I losing? Why don’t you ever provide any proof?
And then there was the time you claimed that nobody in Spain calls the USA ‘América’. This was after I posted a link to a quote from the RAE saying that some people in Spain DO call the USA ‘América’.
Remember? Spain??
You really twist meanings don't you? I said I was just in Spain and talked with people and they thought the continent was America! This was my experience and was explaining it to the group. Did I see all Spaniards? Everyone in Spain? From Spain? NO so you took the words and twisted it. Or if you can prove that I said that nobody in Spain calls the USA America show it to me!
What exactly are you arguing with me about? As far as I can tell, you’re not arguing against what I have repeatedly written. Instead, you’re arguing against what you imagine to be the arguments of your conception of a stereotypical American.
Remember that you have never directly quoted anything that I have written, and then proved it to be factually inaccurate. I, on the other hand, have on many occasions taken direct quotes from your comments, and proved them to be wrong. Let us never forget your classic “argument” that “America is not a word”.
You cannot disprove anything I write because what I write is factually accurate. Your only tactic is to ignore what I write and then fabricate straw man arguments that you pretend are my own. It is truly pathetic.
Is this you: "Davidsays...
If we have to follow the Waldseemüller map, then you are wrong to use the name ‘America’ for the Americas. The Waldseemüller map names North America as ‘Parias’ and South America as ‘America’. So, since we have to follow Waldseemüller, it is INCORRECT to use the name ‘America’ for all of the Americas. ‘America’ is only the name for South America. THE AMERICAS ARE NOT AMERICA!!!!! WE MUST FOLLOW THE WALDSEEMÜLLER MAP!!!!
30th May 2019 9:25pm"
David is this you??? "Davidsays...
“America is what the New World was named in 1507.”
Wrong. America is what SOUTH AMERICA was named in 1507.
It makes me frustrated and sad that there are people like you who will totally and obviously misrepresent what a source says. Your false words do not change the fact of how the 1507 map is labeled. Your lies don’t change what Schöner knew and said about Parias and America. We can all look at the map and see that you are wrong. How do you explain that what you are writing doesn’t agree with the map?
5th June 2019 3:29pm"
That’s also me. Are any of these going to show you proving me wrong instead of me proving you wrong? We already know I have proved you wrong many times and that you have never proved me wrong.
I can’t wait to see what lies, absurd “reasoning”, and straw man arguments you are going to concoct with these quotes of mine. This should be special.
I don't remember ever that you have proven me wrong. But instead you seemed to have disappeared when someone or I brought up something that proved your position wrong.
What was this that you wrote please explain: "THE AMERICAS ARE NOT AMERICA!!!!! WE MUST FOLLOW THE WALDSEEMÜLLER MAP!!!!" Here you wrote and in capital letters that the continent (known by you and others) is not America. That the Americas are not America, you insinuate that there are two Americas and thereby you believe that the continent which was coined America now has been parted into two. So you do believe in two continents but those are not the original America you seem to be saying you now agree to.
Yes, I wrote that. I was being facetious. I wrote that because of people like you. You would repeatedly claim that ‘America’ could only refer to all of the Americas because of the 1507 map. I pointed out the fact that the 1507 map names only South America as ‘America’. I asked you point blank many, many times what is SA labeled as and what is NA labeled as on the map. You refused many, many times to answer. As far as I know, you still haven’t admitted these obvious facts.
I obviously wasn’t serious. I don’t call NA ‘Parias’ in casual conversation, and I apply ‘the Americas’ to both continents. I was simply pointing out that if we had to follow the Waldseemüller map, which we don’t have to do, then we would have to call only SA ‘America’.
Thanks for reminding me of another thing I proved you wrong about. And there was also the time that you didn’t know that the US took half of Mexico’s land after conquering Mexico city, the major port of Vera Cruz, and other important locations.
The 1507 map was brought up to show people that the new world was named America and I told you that as they figured there was more land which was discovered that was part of that new body of land, landmass, that was part of the original name "America". I think you just like to pin point small unnecessary details just for the sake of arguing and not constructive approach to find out about the issue at hand. That is obvious when you recur to insults and name callings which don't belong in discussion with civil and educated people.
It is an important fact that ‘America’ didn’t originally refer to all of the Americas. It’s important because it counters the BS argument of people like you that ‘America’ can only refer to all of the Americas because that was its original referent. It wasn’t its original referent. It originally referred to just SA. You appeal to the etymological fallacy. If that fallacy actually dictated how names can be used, and it doesn’t, then ‘America’ would only refer to SA, not all of the Americas. This is what your “logic” and “reasoning” would dictate. But you’re wrong, so ‘America’ can and does refer to various things.
David is this you??? "Davidsays...
It can only be seen in different ways if you are being dishonest, which is what you are. The quotes clearly show that Parias and America were considered separate lands. So Parias isn’t America. So America isn’t all of the New World. So when you call all of the Americas ‘America’, you are not using the original meaning of the word. Stop lying.
6th June 2019 11:35am05"
That’s me. What are you going to pretend you’re proving now?
Most who call the US ‘America’ know the name came from the continent(s). It was common for English & British people to call the colonies & then the US ‘America’. For many years they did this a lot more often than Americans did. Two official names they used were ‘English America’ & then ‘British America’. THEY KNEW IT CAME FROM THE CONTINENT(S). MOST PROBABLY DIDN’T THINK ABOUT, NOR WOULD THEY CARE, WHETHER OR NOT ANYONE WOULD BE UPSET.
It became common in the US starting in 1898 to call the US ’America’. THEY KNEW IT CAME FROM THE CONTINENT(S). MOST PROBABLY DIDN’T THINK ABOUT, NOR WOULD THEY CARE, WHETHER OR NOT ANYONE WOULD BE UPSET.
I’ve stated these things many times: ‘America’ originated as a name for S. America; it was soon used to name all of the Americas; & later it was used to refer to the US. I’ve also stated many times that I’m well aware that other people use the name differently. Please stop being dishonest by pretending that I am arguing against these points.
I really don't have the time to go back and look for your quotes. But you might and would you please enlighten us with the post and quote where after you have said many times that South America was the only part named America and the rest was Parias and then you say you have said that later the whole continent was named "America". You have not proven me wrong on anything but when I prove my points on many things you all of the sudden and conveniently disappeared.
You have never taken a direct quote of anything I have written and then proved it wrong. If you had, you would provide an example.
Those who started the calling of the U.S. as if the nation's name was America are either incompetent not knowing that there was a entire continent with that name or they didn't care about the rest and appropriated the name without regards to the rest of the continent's inhabitants. David you can't reconcile the fact that the name you and millions think as if rightly so names a nation does not in any way conflicts with the continent in which that same nation is located in. It does and the best way to show you is when somewhere along the way that nation figured out that it did conflicted so the best thing was to change the continent's name. For that they recurred to parting the continent in two and calling them The Americas. Bingo they are off the hook! How convenient.
Mashalla, I commend anyone fighting against the spirit of lies. I'd love to see a forum fashioned on this one dispelling the mainstream Christian belief that the "Son of God" is himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Great job guys.
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You guys don’t know how much joy I get out of the fact that so many people around the world use ‘America’ and ‘American’ in a way that you dislike so much. You have to hear it all the time. I love it.
And your false sense of intellectual and moral superiority. It’s so amusing. Endless entertainment. Thanks.
Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy. So sure thing. doesn't change the truth of the fact that the United States is only part of what genuinely America hence American is not a nationality.
As you've been made well aware.
You haven’t informed anyone of anything. Your “arguments” are a No Fact Zone.
"Someone born in Brazil is an American. Anyone born on the western hemisphere is an American. American is not a nationality."
--Karen Allen
It is a nationality. It also refers to a continental affiliation.
the official paper where one becomes a citizen of the U.S. says "U.S. Citizenship" and not American citizen. If it were a nationality, it would say the latter but it doesn't because it is wrong. It is erroneously to continue something that has been thought as correct but it is not. Just because public picked up a saying that has been spread erroneously for centuries does not make it correct. America is a continent, not a nation. The nation of the United States bears the name of the continent in which it was founded and that is the reason for its inclusion on the long name "United States of America". Not that the nation was given the name America and then later united as States, nope. History tells us that they were sovereign States which united in one common ideal to stay stronger together in the new world hence the continent, America.
Correct, if the term American were to ever be used in the U.S. Constitution; it would effectively grant every American citizen ( from Greenland to Tierra del Fuego Argentina) the rights and privileges intend solely for U.S. Citizens. Including the right to run for office and vote in U.S. elections.
Official names aren’t the only names that exist and they aren’t the only ones that are correct. This explains how billions of people call US citizens ‘Americans’ with only rare instances of confusion.
Obviously names can be used to refer to various things. How is it “correct” for ‘America’ to refer to a soccer team but “incorrect” for it to refer to a country? What’s the rule than unambiguously explains this? The soccer team is within the continent. So is the country. The soccer team is named after the continent. So is the country. Please provide a link to the universal law of naming that explains how the former is “correct” and the latter is “incorrect”.
You don’t really believe that such a rule exists, do you? If it does, why don’t you ever quote it? Is it just because your Google skills are weak?
David you live in that fantasy world that has been created to believe that the name America was actually coined for a nation. But at the same time you understand that the name was coined for a continent. You are a confused mind. That soccer team is named "America" in honor of the continent but naming a soccer team does not in fact take away the name of the continent and the people in those countries belonging to it. When the nation names itself the same way as the continent in which it is located and taking at the same time the rights to millions of people to also bear that name as continental citizens, that is an issue.
Obviously United States is promoted as America to justify misrepresenting the term American. Think we can all appreciate the U.S. narrative.
There's really nothing more to it.
The accurate terms are United Statesian, U.S. Citizen ... or U.S. American (which is a subset of full set of what is American) explicitly referring to American from the United States e.g. U.S. Post Office.
'United States of America'
We all know, the ‘Nazareth’ in ‘Jesus of Nazareth’ refers to the Biblical City. This hence means that ‘Nazareth’ cannot refer to the Jesus of Nazareth. But in fact refers to the city 'Nazareth' from which 'Jesus' is inferred to be 'OF.'
The ‘America’ in United States of America refers to the continent. Today, in English, ‘America’ by itself almost always refers to the USA. These are facts.
Names can refer to more than one thing. That which names refer to can change over time. This doesn’t break any rules of naming. These are facts.
If people started calling Jesus ‘Nazareth’, then ‘Nazareth’ would refer to Jesus.
This is what happened with ‘America’. It doesn’t matter that you don’t like it. Your dislike obviously didn’t prevent it from happening. Do you know why? Because your preferences don’t determine how people use names.
It would refer to Jesus in addition to referring to the city.
So you must also believe that RuPaul is really a woman.
Exactly, because Jesus comes from the city but he's got a real name :Jesus. Unlike the U.S. who is using the name America as their name now when it is the place where it came from just as Jesus was called from Nazareth. You yourself understand this very well right? This is what I have been telling you. U.S. adding the name "America" meant that the nation came from America and that is not the name of the nation but a continent. If you put the two examples together, Jesus = U.S., Jesus of Nazareth, U.S. of America, both have a biographical place where they came from and not that it is their name or if not Jesus would had changed his name to "Nazareth" and so the U.S. using the name of "America" would had correlated to that but you know this didn't happen because it is wrong.